Ship:Elbing

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Elbing

Destroyer | Germany | Tier X

Tech Tree Position

General

Research price240000 exp

Purchase price20,000,000

Hit Points30,900

Main Battery

150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount3 х 2 pcs.

Rate of Fire8.5 shots/min

Reload Time7 sec

Rotation Speed10 deg/sec

180 Degree Turn Time18 sec

Firing Range13.3 km

Maximum Dispersion61 m

HE Shell150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz. Ausf. B

Maximum HE Damage1,800

Chance of Fire12 %

Initial HE Velocity960 m/s

HE Shell Weight51 kg

AP Shell150 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/3.7 Ausf. C

Maximum AP Shell Damage4,100

Initial AP Shell Velocity960 m/s

AP Shell Weight51 kg

Torpedo Tubes

533 mm Fünfling2 х 5 pcs.

Rate of Fire0.7 shots/min

Reload Time90 sec

Rotation Speed  deg/sec

180 Degree Turn Time7.2 sec

TorpedoG7 T1 Ausf.C

Maximum Damage16,533

Torpedo Speed50 knot

Torpedo Range13.5 km

AA Defense

30 mm/45 Flak 103/38 on a quadruple mount10 х 4 pcs.

55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a twin mount2 х 2 pcs.

150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount3 х 2 pcs.

Maneuverability

Maximum Speed36.2 knot

Turning Circle Radius890 m

Rudder Shift Time6.3 sec

Concealment

Surface Detectability Range8 km

Air Detectability Range5 km

Battle Levels

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X

20,000,000

Elbing — German Tier X destroyer.

A project for a so-called "reconnaissance cruiser", and the culmination of efforts to create a destroyer that would be capable of operating on the high seas. She was a large destroyer with 150 mm main guns placed in twin turrets, and carried powerful torpedo armament.

Elbing was first available during Update 0.10.5 on 17th Jun 2021.

Modules

	Rate of Fire (shots/min)	180° Turn Time (sec)	Maximum Dispersion (m)	Maximum HE Shell Damage (HP)	Chances of HE shells causing a fire on target (%)	Maximum AP Shell Damage (HP)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount	8.5	18	61	1,800	12	4,100		0	2,000,000

	Hit Points (HP)	Armor (mm)	Armor (mm)	Main Turrets (pcs.)	Secondary Gun Turrets (pcs.)	AA Mounts (pcs.)	Torpedo Tubes (pcs.)	Hangar Capacity (pcs.)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
Elbing	30,900	13	100	3		10/2/3	2			0	3,000,000

	Rate of Fire (shots/min)	Torpedo Tubes Reload Time (sec)	180° Turn Time (sec)	Maximum Damage (HP)	Torpedo Speed (knot)	Torpedo Range (km)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
G7 T1 Ausf. C	0.7	90	7.2	16,533	50	13.5		0	2,000,000

	IDS_SHIP_PARAM_SUO_INCREASE_DIST (%)	Maximum Firing Range (km)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
FKS Typ 10 Mod. 1		0		0	2,000,000

	Maximum Speed (knot)		Research price (exp)	Purchase price ()
Propulsion: 110,000 hp	36.2		0	2,000,000

Compatible Upgrades

Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Slot 4
Slot 5
Slot 6

Player Opinion

Performance

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Elbing is a Tier X German destroyer that tends to share more in common with cruisers than other destroyers at her tier. She continues the trend of the German destroyer split with potent AP shells and slow but hard hitting torpedoes.

Armament:

While carrying the same 150 mm main battery as her predecessor Felix Schultz, Elbing gains improved shell characteristics, good ballistics, improved dispersion, and slightly more base range at 13.3 km. The HE shells are still a weak point of the ship, with low alpha damage. It is slightly made up with a good fire chance of 12% and German quarter penetration, allowing the HE shells to penetrate 38 mm armor.

The highlight of the ship is the AP shells, which have improved penetration angles (the same as heavy cruiser Des Moines) and excellent penetration (comparable to the AP pen of Hindenburg). Alongside high alpha damage of 4100, Elbing is very effective against cruisers, specifically light cruisers with weak citadel protection. These shells can deal serious damage against larger targets as well, as long as they are showing enough broadside. Against most destroyers, she will overpen broadsides but can penetrate angled targets. Armored destroyers such as Ragnar, Delny, Khabarovsk, and Elbing herself can be penetrated by AP shells.

Alongside the main battery are the torpedoes with the same characteristics as tier X battleship Schlieffen. Elbing carries ten torpedoes spread across two quintuple launchers, with each torpedo dealing a respectable 16,533 damage. These torpedoes reload quickly with a 90 second base reload time but this comes at the cost of a very slow base speed of 50 knots. This is offset by the low reaction time of 8.9 seconds allowing Elbing to launch torpedoes as a way to zone enemy ships and capture zones.

Hull:

As a destroyer leader, Elbing possesses a hull on par of a light cruiser rather than a destroyer. This translates to her maneuverability characteristics as she is not very fast at 36.2 knots and has a big turning radius of 890 meters. In practice this means players must be wary of torpedoes when sitting in smokes due to her large size and lack of Hydroacoustic Search.

The upsides come from having a massive base hp pool of 30,900, and up to 34,400 with the Survivability Expert commander skill. Alongside the minimum concealment of 6.5km, Elbing is a hard destroyer to get rid of for the enemy team. The hp pool allows her to trade against enemy destroyers and win gunfights.

Another unique feature is the armor, with 25mm side plating and deck armor. This means most destroyers will shatter HE shells and allow Elbing to bounce AP shells that do not overmatch 25 mm. This can also be a weakness against destroyer AP shells if players give too much broadside. While destroyers cannot be citadelled, full penetrations are possible and will deal massive damage.

Consumables:

Much like the previous German destroyers in this tech tree line, Elbing comes with Smoke Generator, Engine Boost, and Defensive AA Fire consumables.

She comes with 3 charges of Smoke Generator consumable, which have a short 20 second action time and 97 second dispersion time. The cooldown is lengthy at 160 seconds and thus these smokes should be used only when necessary to break detection or when setting up to farm targets for extended periods of time.

The Automated Gun and Fuel Systems unique upgrade increases the speed boost bonus by 12%, giving Elbing a fast top speed of 43.4 knots.

The Engine Boost consumable is also present, with 8% speed boost for 120 seconds. This increases Elbing’s top speed to 39.1 knots, allowing her to comfortably rotate and reposition her hull quickly.

Finally, the Defensive AA Fire consumable increases AA dps by 50% and flak damage by 300%. As with all destroyers, Elbing should have her AA turned off unless she is being hovered by planes or for supporting her allies that are being struck by aircraft.

Anti-Aircraft:

Due to having light cruiser guns, Elbing gets 6.9 km AA range but is quite lackluster damage wise. She only produces 2 flak and has horrible long range and medium range AA DPS. The Defensive AA Fire consumable slightly increases her DPS but it is still not good and should not be relied on to deal with aircraft at tier X. As with most destroyers, it is important to not stray too far away from one's team and retreat back into Allied Anti-Air aura when focused by a carrier.

Battle Performance:

As stated before, Elbing should be viewed more as a cruiser rather than a destroyer, and thus should not be played as a traditional destroyer. Her playstyle is very similar to that of a smoke farming gun boat destroyer, utilizing smoke screens to remain hidden while opening up angles to farm cruisers and battleships. Due to her amazing AP shells and pinpoint dispersion, it is best to find broadside targets by positioning on flanks and creating crossfires with allied ships. By creating multiple angles, enemy cruisers, especially super light cruisers, must be wary of being citadeled and even outright deleted. Her HE shells are still useful for lighting fires and penetrating heavily angled targets. When not farming targets, the slow but long range torpedoes should be utilized to zone ships.

Due to her fairly low detection for a gunboat of this size and massive hp pool, Elbing can bully other gunboats by taking advantageous trades with her AP shells. However, torpedo destroyers who keep their distance can be difficult to deal with. Without any utility of her own, Elbing relies on allied Hydroacoustic Search and Surveillance Radar when playing for key areas.

The addition of the unique upgrade, Automated Gun and Fuel Systems, allows Elbing to be played in open water, utilizing the increased speed from her Engine Boost to dodge incoming fire at range. This further pushes her into the farming destroyer role and players can opt for greedier builds that push her damage output but decrease game impact.

Overall, Elbing is a unique gunboat/cruiser hybrid that relies on AP shells to do damage and impacts the outcomes of matches through dealing more damage than the enemies destroyers.

Pros:

• High HP pool
• 25 mm armor plating
• High AP penetration with improved ricochet angles
• High AP alpha damage
• Improved Dispersion
• High fire chance
• Improved HE penetration
• Long range torpedoes with low reaction time
• Decent Concealment
• Access to Engine Boost
• Access to Defensive AA Fire

Cons:

• Large Target
• Poor HE alpha damage
• Long reload time for a destroyer
• Big turning radius and slow rudder shift
• Very slow torpedoes
• Poor AA DPS
• Lacks utility consumables

Research

As a Tier X ship, Elbing has no upgrades to research.

Optimal Configuration

Upgrades

Recommended upgrades for Elbing:

• Slot 1: Main Armaments Modification 1
• Slot 2: Engine Room Protection or Engine Boost Modification 1
• Slot 3: Aiming Systems Modification 1
• Slot 4: Propulsion Modification 1
• Slot 5: Concealment System Modification 1 
• Slot 6: Main Battery Modification 3 or Automated Gun and Fuel Systems

Commander Skills

While the range of Elbing's torpedoes is long enough that they can be considered an offensive weapon, they are not the ship's primary strength. Skill points are better invested elsewhere.

Recommended Commander Skills
Cost (points)	Attack				Defense
1	Grease the Gears +15% main battery traverse speed. ★★	Liquidator +30% chance (multiplicative) of causing flooding.	Consumable Specialist −7.5% cooldown time of all Consumables except:  Damage Control Party ,  Repair Party .	Gun Feeder -40% time to switch shell type. ★	Incoming Fire Alert Receive a warning about a salvo fired at your ship from more than 4.5 km.	Preventive Maintenance −30% chance of main armament, engines, steering becoming incapacitated +15% to HP of secondary and AA guns. ★★★
2	Demolition Expert +1% chance of main and secondary HE shells causing a fire. +15% to the damage-inflicting area of HE shells fired at submarines.	Swift Fish +5% torpedo speed.	Consumables Enhancements +10% action time of: Hydroacoustic Search , Surveillance Radar , Smoke Generator , & Engine Boost .	Extra-Heavy Ammunition +7.5% main battery AP shell damage. +10% damage from depth charges. ★★	Priority Target The detection indicator will show the number of enemies aiming at you with main battery. ★★	Last Stand The ship remains able to move and maneuver - slowly - while the engine or steering gears are incapacitated. ★★★
3	Main Battery & AA Specialist -5% main battery reload time. +10% continuous AA damage. ★★	Fill the Tubes -10% torpedo tubes reload time.	Adrenaline Rush -0.2% reload time of all armaments per 1% HP lost +0.2% AA continuous damage per 1% HP lost. ★★★	Inertial Fuse for HE Shells +25% armor penetration of HE shells Base fire chance reduced by half.	Superintendent +1 charge to all consumables. ★★	Survivability Expert +350 HP per ship tier. ★★★
4	Main Battery & AA Expert +20% main battery range. +15% flak damage. ★★★	Swift in Silence So long as the ship remains undetected: +8% ship speed +5% main battery reload time.	Radio Location Shows the direction to the nearest enemy ship. The enemy is alerted that a bearing has been taken..	Fearless Brawler +1 flak burst per salvo. -10% main battery reload when ship is spotted. ★★	Concealment Expert -10% detectability range of the ship. ★★	Dazzle For 15 seconds after you are detected: * +20% dispersion of enemy shells fired at you. * +8% ship speed.
Key: ★★★ - Extremely Useful      ★★ - Frequently Useful      ★ - Occasionally Useful     No stars - Not Useful

Slot 2 should be Engine Boost Modification 1 if the player can afford to spend the coal, especially so if using the Automated Gun and Fuel Systems. While it is an investment of research bureau points, it is pretty much a straight upgrade to Elbing’s performance and should be bought if captains want to get the most out of Elbing.

Commander Skills

Gunther Lutjens is recommended for players who like playing Elbing due to the useful and easily achievable talents that he provides.

The Resilient talent provides healing after spotting 3 enemy ships, which is easily done with a destroyer and is useful for a ship with no Repair Party.

The Main Battery Loader talent provides a 7.5% decrease in reload time once per battle after 140 main battery hits. This provides more offensive capability in battle and is relatively easy to achieve.

An all rounder build for Elbing takes advantage of her firepower and hull and increases effectiveness for random battles. The first ten points are mandatory for pretty much every destroyer: Preventative Maintenance: increase survivability of modules, Last Stand: ensure the hull can still move with a damaged engine, Survivability Expert: more health allows for more risks and surviving engagements, Concealment Expert: easier time sneaking up on enemies and disengaging from fights

Next skills improve range and firepower: Adrenaline Rush: more damage output when damaged

Main Battery and AA Expert: more range

Extra Heavy Ammunition: Increases AP damage

Gun Feeder: easily swap between AP and HE shells

Grease the Gears: easily putting guns on target faster

Another build focuses more on damage output and leans heavily into the unique upgrade for a more open water DPM playstyle. The first 3 points are self explanatory Preventative Maintenance, Last Stand

The next skills lean heavily into damage output Adrenaline Rush: more damage output when damaged

Fearless Brawler: Faster reloads while spotted increases damage output

Main Battery and AA Expert: more range

Main Battery and AA Specialist: more damage output

Extra Heavy Ammunition: Increases AP damage

Gun Feeder: easily swap between AP and HE shells

Grease the Gears: easily putting guns on target faster

This build notably does not use concealment expert or survivability expert as it is expected to be spotted often and dodge easily with the usage of unique upgrade. This isn’t recommended for the average/inexperienced player as builds that don't use maximum concealment are generally harder to play and harder to win games with.

Consumables

Elbing equips:

• Slot 1: Damage Control Party 
• Slot 2: Smoke Generator  – 3 charges
• Slot 3: Engine Boost  - 3 charges
• Slot 4: Defensive AA Fire  – 3 charges

Signals

Recommended Signal Flags
Combat
Charlie Kilo +5% ship HP; +2.5% squadron HP.	Juliet Yankee Bissotwo -20% to flooding duration.	India Yankee -20% to fire duration. ★	Hotel Yankee -20% to damage received when ramming the enemy. +50% to damage dealt when ramming the enemy.	Victor Lima +1% chance for HE bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm causing a fire. +0.5% chance for bombs and smaller shells causing a fire. +4% chance of torpedoes causing flooding. ★★★	India X-Ray +1% chance for HE bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm causing a fire. +0.5% chance for bombs and smaller shells causing a fire. ★★
Juliet Whiskey Unaone +15% chance of causing flooding.	Mike Yankee Soxisix +5% to secondary battery maximum firing range. -5% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells. -5% to secondary battery loading time.	November Echo Setteseven +5% continuous AA damage at all ranges. +5% damage from flak bursts.	Sierra Mike +5% to the ship's maximum speed. ★★★	November Foxtrot -5% reload time on all consumables. ★★	India Delta +20% to the amount of HP recovered when Repair Party  is used.
X-Ray Papa Unaone +10% action time of a Smoke Generator . ★★	Sierra Bravo +10% action time of Hydroacoustic Search  -10% reload time of Defensive AA Fire . ★

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Historical Info

Elbing, 1942 design

Specifications

5,037 long tons displacement, standard

5,900 long tons displacement, full

152.20m length

14.60m beam

4.60m draft

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Machinery

4 boilers, 2 turbines for the outer shafts

4 diesel motors for the inner shaft

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Performance

35.5 knots at 92,000 shaft horsepower

8,000nm at 17 knots

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Armor

15mm bulkheads and up to 12mm deck

30mm turret face plates

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Armament

Main

Six (3x2) 150mm/48 guns

Anti-Aircraft

Ten (5x2) 37mm C/30 cannons

Twelve (3x4) 20mm C/38 cannons

Torpedo

Ten (5x2) 533mm torpedo tubes

History

The lack of oceangoing destroyers forced the Kriegsmarine to design a class of ships capable of Atlantic operations with a cruising range suited for that task. Their intended field of operations would be to act as merchant raider and escorts in the Atlantic, to be suited for tropical conditions as well as counter the French destroyer leaders.

The first stage of this thinking was the 1936A type, however experience with those ships showed an insufficient cruising range, preventing any sort of Atlantic operation. Furthermore, the sea keeping of those destroyers left much to be desired and so a new set of designs was drafted, the 1937 type destroyers. These were much enlarged designs with better sea keeping, but would still not have the cruising range desired for open ocean operations. As they were almost the size of light cruisers at that point while not matching either the protection of a cruiser or the speed of a destroyer, they were discontinued. Instead the 1938 type destroyers were drafted, with 1938A being the ocean going destroyer while 1938B would be a smaller design for service in Northern and Baltic waters. What set the 1938A apart from preceding designs was the usage of a third shaft with Diesel propulsion for increased range. This design would eventually evolve into the Spähkreuzer 1938 design, on which Elbing is based.

Design

The Spähkreuzer 1938 design called for a 152.2m long and 14.6m wide hull to provide the necessary sea keeping. The empty ship alone would displace 4,589 tons, growing to 5,037 and 5,900 tons standard and fully loaded respectively. 520 enlisted men and 18 officers would crew the ship.

In terms of protection the Spähkreuzer 1938 design only accounted for splinter damage. 15mm Ww plates acting as longitudinal bulkheads would provide some protection to vital areas, with a 10mm Wh deck connecting to the upper edge of the bulkhead. The bridge area received a similarly thin protection with only 10-15mm strong Wh plates. The strongest protection would be on the turrets, with 30mm Wh faceplates. A double bottom providing some anti-mine protection covered 81% of the ship's length.

The main armament was designed with six 150mm L/48 C/36 cannons, mounted in three twin turrets on the centerline with one turret fore and a superfiring pair aft. These guns would fire a 45kg heavy projectile at ranges up to 23.5km, reloading within at best 7.5 seconds. The auxiliary armament was initially planned to consist of five 37mm L/83 C/30 twin mounts and three 20mm Flakvierling 38 mounts, arranged around the superstructure. Unlike most German destroyers the torpedo armament grew to ten tubes, mounted in two quintuple torpedo launchers.

For machinery the Spähkreuzer 1938 design carried two independent steam turbine sets and one set of four diesel motors geared down via a gearbox to drive the shaft. The turbines, manufactured by Wagner, were supplied with 450°C hot steam at 70atü pressure steam by two Wagner-boilers. The Diesel motors were to be built by MAN and provide roughly 3,650hp each, which after the gearbox would result in 14,500shp on the central shaft. Each wingshaft would be driven by 38,750shp, for a total of 92,000shp to permit the 35.5kn max speed. With a fuel capacity of 820 tons the cruising range was calculated to be 8,000nm at a speed of 17kn.

Historical Inaccuracies

• The Spähkreuzer 1938 design called for the 150mm L/48 C/36 gun to be used. In-game however she carries the 150mm L/60 C/25 gun in twin turrets that were never designed.
• The Spähkreuzer 1938 design planned to use standard 3m rangefinders for fire control. The in-game model however carried M/42 Flak directors for dual purpose armament.

Historical Gallery

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  Blueprint showing the internal layout as well as the view from the top
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  Blueprint showing the internal layout of the upper decks and the superstructure

References

Ship Change Log

• Available for testing by supertesters in the game starting from Update 0.10.1.

Testing Changes

• DevBlog 112:
  • Preliminary characteristics.
• DevBlog 123:
  • Removed the Hydroacoustic Search consumable.
  • Added the Smoke Generator consumable.
• DevBlog 129:
  • Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 85 to 90 s.
  • Main battery firing range increased from 12.3 to 13.3 km.
  • Smoke screen dispersion time increased from 77 to 97 s.
• DevBlog 132:
  • Torpedo parameters changed:
    • Range increased from 8 to 13.5 km.
    • Speed decreased from 65 to 50 knots.
    • Detectability range decreased from 1.3 to 1.2 km.
    • Maximum damage increased from 13,700 to 16,533.
• DevBlog 139:
  • Main battery 180 degree turn time decreased from 22.5 to 18 s.
• DevBlog 145:
  • Main battery reload time decreased from 7.5 to 7.1 s.
• DevBlog 159:
  • Detectability range by sea decreased from 8.46 to 8.26 km. Other detectability ranges decreased accordingly.

• Introduced into the game as a researchable ship in Update 0.10.5.
• Update 0.10.5:
  • Fixed geometry and textures of the ship.
• Update 0.11.8:
  • Maximum HE shell damage increased from 1,700 to 1,800.
  • HE shell fire chance increased from 8% to 12%.
• Update 12.5:
  • Engine Boost consumable added in a separate slot.
• Update 13.0:
  • Added the "Automated Gun and Fuel Systems" unique upgrade in Slot 6, available in the Research Bureau for 19,200 Research Points, with the following parameters:
    • Main battery reload time: –6%.
    • Maximum ship speed while the Engine Boost consumable is active: +12%.
    • Main battery traverse speed: +100%.
• Update 13.3:
  • Depth Charge damage increased from 2,200 to 2,400.

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